There was a question regarding last week’s work session… You can’t just cite the open meetings law when it suits your agenda.
During the budget hearings it was mentioned, but it was not part of an official meeting.
I’m just speechless, I could not even believe it…. Nothing unethical took place.
The council knew what we had discussed, there was confusion among staff.
Mayor claims violation of Open Meetings Law
At the November 24, 2008 City Council Meeting, Mayor Nick Valentine criticized Councilwomen Bell, Bello, and Dickinson for allegedly violating the Open Meetings Law. After Councilwoman Bello made a motion to change the Housing and Real Estate Development Coordinator position from full-time to part-time as an amendment to the 2009 budget, Valentine made his remarks:
We did discuss a variety of things over a couple of our meetings… On Thursday night, this did not make the checklist. What happened next, it did disturb me a little bit. The following day there was a series of conversation and emails by three of our council members. And in those discussions, consensus was that they did not want a full-time position, they wanted a part-time position. Three votes. Except that, that’s not how we do it, we do it through what we call the Open Meetings Rule, which is, you don’t decide, three people on what the votes going to be… We went over that today, we solved it by saying, we discuss it like we’re discussing it tonight, it can be amended as part of this budget… In a funny way, I feel bad nobody called me. I would have answered, and I would have talked about it and given my opinion.
Councilwoman Bello attempted to respond, saying, “Can I…”
Valentine: “No, that’s it…”
Bello: “But what you just said was not true.”
Valentine: “Those are my comments. Those are my comments on the amended part of the budget.”
Council did discuss the position at the 11/20/08 work session; consensus was position was “half-time”
Reviewing the videotape of the work session, the council did indeed discuss the full-time/part-time Housing position, during the CDBG 2009 budget discussion portion of the meeting.
Councilwoman Bell: Another question that I had was on the business development, $50,000. I thought we were not going to do that position.
Lourdes Zapata-Perez: That’s an existing position. That’s to fund the business specialist that we currently have on staff. So that pays for 70% of that staff person’s time. The remaining 30% is incorporated with the Newburgh 20/20 line.
Councilwoman Bell: Okay. And $35,000 for the property disposition?
Lourdes Zapata-Perez: That’s the housing… real estate personnel that we’ve talked about during the budget process. The council had agreed to fund it out of the CDBG program 09 budget on a half-time basis. My proposal to council at the budget meeting, because, again, I feel very strongly that it is a full-time position, due… given all the housing related and real estate related activities that are going on in the city, it really calls for a full-time position. With the memo I gave council at the budget meeting with my department, as part of that, there’s money in the 2008 CDBG position that is available. So my request to council is to approve it as a full-time position using half of 09 and half of 08.
Councilwoman Bell: And I guess where we left off with it was that, council said, asked for it to be part-time or to be at a consultant basis.
City Manager McGrane: But the CDBG budget, it is part-time, correct?
Lourdes Zapata-Perez: …(indicates it is)
City Manager McGrane: Right. So, approving this, is approving a half-time position. Approving the position in the budget is, actually, approving the full-time position that’s funded by CDBG, but if we just focus on this, this is the money for the half-time position. Whether or not it’s a half-time or a consultant, I think, it’s just allocating the money for this task in the 2009 CDBG budget. And you, the council had agreed to do that in your discussions on CDBG.
Council also discussed the position at the 11/13/08 work session
During this session, Councilwoman Bello recommends eliminating the position, Councilwoman Bell recommends the hiring of a consultant, and after City Manager McGrane defends making the position full-time Councilwoman Bello expresses frustration that the city manager defends positions the council would like to cut. (Primary discussion of this begins at 15:00.)
Would work session minutes have prevented the confusion?
According to an email from Councilwoman Bello,
The problem occurred when we were informed that even though we were asking for a part time person, Lourdes was stating that there were funds in the 2008 budget left over that they would combine to the 2009 amount and make it full time anyway. This was clearly contrary to what the majority of council had designated and that is exactly why Marge and I sent emails reaffirming our previously discussed position. I believe that Mary Ann made a phone call to reaffirm.
I do not recall at which budget meeting it was discussed but I know it was previously discussed.
While I may not be able to pin point the exact budget meeting in which we had the discussion on the Business Coordinator, the fact remains that if we had minutes, (as required by Open Meetings Law) our statements would be part of the public record, and this whole problem could have been avoided.
What is the issue?
The Times-Herald Record ran an article on the controversy, “Newburgh councilwomen suspect dirty tricks.” And today they ran an editorial “Jeers” to the “leaders in the City of Newburgh” regarding this, stating:
The issue, now as it was with other confrontations, goes far beyond the status of a single job or the cost to taxpayers. It comes down to the inability or unwillingness of all parties to talk openly about their disagreements and follow the rules of conduct that could lead to an agreement.
On reflection of the history of the meetings and their documentation, this does not seem to be the issue at all. Rather, it seems from the 11/20/08 meeting that the City Manager represented to the council that their wishes of the position being part-time were being honored by “approving a half-time position.”
According to the Open Meetings Law, it is not illegal for councilmembers to confer with one another, even by email. What would be “inconsistent” with the law would be making a collective decision over email. That is not what happened here.

